tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post7240493737085723208..comments2024-03-20T11:21:16.856-04:00Comments on Heneghan’s Dunwoody Blog: Solicitation in Dunwoody - changes need to be made.John Heneghanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18046846808671417720noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-7444173107730345172011-09-22T23:17:29.530-04:002011-09-22T23:17:29.530-04:00Solicitation Ordinance Changes
Sep 26th Version o...Solicitation Ordinance Changes<br /><br /><a href="http://jkheneghan.com/city/meetings/2011/Sep/09262011_Door_2_door_Solicitation.pdf" rel="nofollow">Sep 26th Version of the Solicitation Ordinance</a><br /><br />.John Heneghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046846808671417720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-38470605839318863762011-09-09T09:27:15.152-04:002011-09-09T09:27:15.152-04:00Sorry folks, but I really can't support a much...Sorry folks, but I really can't support a much more restrictive "No Solicitation" ordinance, because if the economy gets any worse for my family I'll be having to put on a short skirt and strut up and down tavern row on Ashford-Dunwoody just to keep paying my four kids' college tuition. <br /><br />And trust me, that will not be a pretty sight - so, hideous in fact that the city will wish that it had allowed billboards - and big ones at that!!!GaryRayBetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10216572054206010981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-12975171037472928702011-09-09T08:06:19.140-04:002011-09-09T08:06:19.140-04:00I am very glad the proposed First Read has now dro...I am very glad the proposed First Read has now dropped the above suggested attempts at curbing political speech! Congrats to Brian Anderson I thinkJoe Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952081289996539132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-62325375815106823082011-09-09T00:00:15.166-04:002011-09-09T00:00:15.166-04:00City is moving fast to discuss and then amend the ...City is moving fast to discuss and then amend the regulations on Door to Door Solicitation and it is on the agenda for Monday's City Council Meeting.<br /><br /><a href="http://jkheneghan.com/city/meetings/2011/Sep/09122011_Door_to_Door_Salesman.pdf" rel="nofollow">Updated Proposal for Monday Meeting</a> <br /><br />The main change is the time period, proposing a 3 month vs the current 6 month permit. My other suggestions are either in the current ordinance or can be done via policy. Look for a good discussion on the points I raised especially on revocation and harassment. <br /><br /><b>If any Solicitor ever makes you uncomfortable, please call 911 immediately. </b>John Heneghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046846808671417720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-36944500704949006912011-08-25T18:19:52.163-04:002011-08-25T18:19:52.163-04:00Is it code enforcement or the police? We have bee...Is it code enforcement or the police? We have been told to call 911 when a suspicious solicitor is spotted.<br /><br />Code enforcement might not be around at 7:30 at night!Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13434798345498298882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-21155290862133238752011-08-25T16:06:44.096-04:002011-08-25T16:06:44.096-04:00Actually, I'd only make one small addition to ...Actually, I'd only make one small addition to the current ordinance, and that would be to amend the section that requires the solicitor to have the permit on his person. Instead, I'd require the solicitor have the permit visible ( by issuing an identification badge of some sort with an large-print ref number) and then running a public service campaign that advises all the folks in Dunwoody to demand the solicitor exhibit this permit prior to continuing the discussions.<br /><br />The exceptions for schools, politicians, etc. seem reasonable and typical.<br /><br />Just like the sign ordinance, enforcement is the critical component. Whatever you do, John, you'll have to back up with some $$$ for code enforcement, or whatever you write into law is all but useless.<br /><br />ChipChiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15330185723991647590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-8627178694108742722011-08-25T15:55:48.672-04:002011-08-25T15:55:48.672-04:00If someone knocks on my door to solicit anything, ...If someone knocks on my door to solicit anything, they are trespassing. They meet my dog up close and personal.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06371157074687319596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-21369128225144074662011-08-25T13:53:50.465-04:002011-08-25T13:53:50.465-04:00John, while offering studying the matter is a good...John, while offering studying the matter is a good thing, recall the disastrous wordings of the sign regulations that went before council. There were soooo many First Amendment violations it was frightening. I caution that some of your ideas here are just as worrisome. Before your suggestions reach a vote, I sure hope the city will actually consider the legalities - so we won't waste as much time and money again: Proposing only formal candidates be permitted door-to-door for political speech is an absolute chilling infringement on speech. (And you know I would consider creating a non-profit organization just to knock on council members doors.) I’m glad you are taking suggestions; it seems like better enforcement of our current code could alleviate some of the complaints.Joe Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952081289996539132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-19545023216474399102011-08-25T11:43:54.555-04:002011-08-25T11:43:54.555-04:00Not too long ago I put an essay on my blog about h...Not too long ago I put an essay on my blog about how a privately-run community marketplace would benefit the City. The Green Market, other independent vendors, solicitors who would otherwise go door to door could set up a space and sell. It could cut down on soliciting at private homes and stay in line with the zoning laws.<br /><br />Maybe you can't prohibit door-to-door sales but you can discourage it (and encourage an alternative) due to the fact a criminal element uses it for cover.SDOC Publishing Internet Solutionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041229381529252700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-15961850733606231442011-08-25T10:47:58.550-04:002011-08-25T10:47:58.550-04:00I think there should be NO exemptions. I don't...I think there should be NO exemptions. I don't make any when someone comes on my property without my invitation and I'm not particularly friendly when I send them packing.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06371157074687319596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-58528405938730700742011-08-25T10:44:07.240-04:002011-08-25T10:44:07.240-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06371157074687319596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-29714748713184250282011-08-25T10:32:56.858-04:002011-08-25T10:32:56.858-04:00Regarding your proposed exemption for "minors...Regarding your proposed exemption for "minors under the age of 18": perhaps the wording could be changed to something that would cover all students enrolled in high school, as many seniors and even some juniors are over age 17. Wouldn't want to see an 18 year old senior busted for participating in the band fundraiser to earn money to go on the spring trip.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07436834424955215471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-76498186038486476352011-08-25T09:37:33.954-04:002011-08-25T09:37:33.954-04:00Our condo complex has multiple "No Soliciting...Our condo complex has multiple "No Soliciting" signs at the entrance and along the drive that are universally ignored by all types of solicitors. It would be good if signs of that type are included in whatever ordinance covers individual homeowners' doorways.<br /><br />Then there's the type of solicitor, often from a cable company, who have a list of the company's customers. They may or may not have an appointment with one customer, but then they feel free to approach all other residents as well. And these folks don't even bother with getting permits, relying instead on the one, probably non-existent, customer appointment.barb1531https://www.blogger.com/profile/02462156217281799162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-7312747895579627722011-08-25T08:39:36.102-04:002011-08-25T08:39:36.102-04:00I learned a while ago that it's OK to scream y...I learned a while ago that it's OK to scream your bloody head off when someone gets in your personal space and you feel uneasy. I'm sure I've saved my own life a couple of times. Raising the "NO" a few decibles followed by "POLICE!!! 9-1-1!!!" as loud as you can discourages even the most persistent solicitor - or potential criminal.SDOC Publishing Internet Solutionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041229381529252700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935662058758102231.post-17429300064483795482011-08-25T08:28:48.217-04:002011-08-25T08:28:48.217-04:00Quite frankly I don't understand why anyone fe...Quite frankly I don't understand why anyone feels they have the right to step foot on my property without my permission or consent. That includes folks selling products, services, or religion, and children and politicians begging for handouts. It also includes law enforcement w/o a warrant and code enforcement w/o an appointment. Off the top, the only folks with implied consent are the fire department.Sight Edmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02209999489685877741noreply@blogger.com